Showing posts with label mighty thor. Show all posts
Showing posts with label mighty thor. Show all posts

Monday, September 5, 2016

Thor’s Unworthyness Speculation

So been thinking about this a bit lately and there have been some discussions that helped solidify my ideas on this, and I think i now have a pretty good idea of what may be the reason for Thor becoming unworthy. I know it’s hard to conceive of what Fury could have said to him that made him suddenly unable to lift Mjolnir, but… I’ve got a theory that I think makes sense. Two things, first part i pieced together myself, second part comes from a suggestion from a poster at CBR which I thought made a lot of sense. I’m gonna outline what i think it is, and what i see as evidence to support it. Because as much as some people like to convince themselves that all this was done with no plan whatsoever so they can continue to believe Jason Aaron is a hack, it’s pretty clear to me that there have been some hints laid and there is a long term plan. One that probably got stretched out a bit more longer was originally intended because Jane as Thor actually ended up selling very well, but still. Though admittedly, one of them comes from Jonathan Hickman’s Avengers.

First Part: What makes someone worthy - I think the worthyness enchantment is in part (I do not think this is the ENTIRE worthyness condition, merely the one part of it that Thor lost. there has to be more to it than just this) facing challenges selflessly, and most importantly for this, with no fear of death. Here is what I am using to back that up. First, we have Jane who is battling late stage breast cancer (which is something Aaron introduced, he must have done so for a reason) in her human form and transforming into Thor eliminates any progress her chemo is making. Transforming into Thor is killing her and she knows it, but she does it anyway because she knows she is needed in that role right now. Then you have the scene in the Avengers where Thor Odinson briefly became worthy again. He was facing the Beyonders and was certainly going to die, but he decided right then to fight on anyway, and BAM, worthy again. I think that a fear of death is something that someone can develop even if they did not have it previously with the right motivation. Which brings us to….

Second Part: What could make Thor unworthy - this is the part I think most people have a problem with because I get it, what could someone say to him that makes him suddenly become unworthy?  It doesn’t make much sense on the surface. But if I am right about that part of the worthyness enchantment outlined above, then it becomes easier to explain. There are a number of things that could make someone fear death even if they hadn’t feared it previously, and it doesn’t have to make them a lesser person. I think Fury told Thor he had a child he was unaware of. I suspect it was with Lady Wazira, the Dark Elf sorceress form the League of Realms. She and Thor had a one night stand, then she ends up imprisoned in Malekith’s (oh look, the current big bad, what a coincidence) place. I suspect now, while she was pregnant. But no matter who the mother is, he learns he has a child, and he wants to be there for it, and to be a better father than Odin was. And first step in doing that is to NOT DIE. boom, he suddenly fears death because he wants to be there for his child.

And it makes sense. We already know he will have a child, we’ve seen his granddaughters in the future, which necessitates at least one child of Thor’s own, and they are Aaron’s creation. But their parents and their grandmother are kinda conspicuously never named. Also, after he became unworthy, fatherhood (and kinda family in general, but mostly fathers) started being explored as a theme, with Odin returning literally days before he became unworthy, Laufey being resurrected and Loki coming into the story to deal with not just one but TWO shitty fathers. Jane even had inner monologues about her father. And a child he was unaware of is exactly the sort of thing Watcher secrets could reveal.



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Friday, December 18, 2015

oh, of course...

I was having a discussion on CBR and it led me to finally realize what the whole unworthyness thing in Thor is probably all about. You know how FUCKED UP it was that Thor’s worthy was a measure of what his father (via magic hammer) thought of him? Who cares if he’s unworthy if all it meant was that daddy approved? I don’t care if he’s king of the gods, Odin being his father doesn’t mean he gets to decide what is right for Thor. Thor is better than Odin, he’s demonstrated this countless times. I get that it was a teach him a lesson thing, preparing him for the throne. But that lesson has been learned, and  Odin’s an ass, he should not be setting moral standards for other people.

The sub plot  with the resurrection of Laufey and how he interacts with Loki makes a ton more sense now, too. i mean, I liked that scene, I just didn’t quite see why it was necessary to resurrect Loki’s long dead father from a storytelling perspective, but I get it now. It’s there to reinforce the point with Thor. If Loki met Laufey’s expectations and made him proud, Loki would end up being a worse villain then he ever was before. Getting Laufey’s approval would include murder for pleasure, rape, and other such nastyness,  and all done to be as brutal and cruel as possible. Meeting Laufey’s expectations would be an objectively terrible thing. And not only that, Loki is torn between two fathers, so… which one is he supposed to choose? The flat out evil one, or the one who never seems to approve of him no matter what he does? So Loki flat out says that he makes his own rules, fuck Laufey and Odin both. Loki still probably will never exactly be the best person in the world. But he’s better than he would be if he met Laufey’s expectations, or continued to try and fail to meet Odin’s, leading right back to bitterness and jealousy. So Loki finally has it figured out, now it’s just up to his brother to do the same.

Now, Odin is no Laufey, i get that. But he’s been a complete ass recently, and is obviously stuck way in the past, not exactly demonstrating to those around him that his ways are good ones to follow. Yet he is the one who set the enchantment on Mjolnir, set the rules for what it means to be ‘worthy’ at least initially. Those rules have obviously changed, as demonstrated by Odin’s inability to lift the hammer. They have probably evolved to be Thor’s OWN ideals, he just never realized it yet, and whatever Fury said shook his own sense of self-worth. He can’t pick up the hammer because he’s been made  to feel he’s betrayed his own ideals. Hence why it called out to Jane of all people in the world, who would Thor himself trust more than her? But he has to go through this bout of unworthyness in order to demonstrate all this, and show that his worth comes from within, that he is a good person just because he is not because he is meeting Odin’s expectations.



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Saturday, December 12, 2015

I noticed something fun and potentially important from the...



I noticed something fun and potentially important from the preview for Thor #2. Look at the doors of Asgardia. see that symbol carved on the door? That’s not just something random to look nice. That is an Icelandic magical symbol, or ‘stave’ specifically one called Ægishjálmur, or the ‘Helm of Awe’. It is intended to invoke fear and protect from abuse of power. (the God of Fear’s thugs are attacking her and is possibly controlling Odin. hm….)



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Wednesday, November 18, 2015

So, Mighty Thor #1 was pretty good overall, I feel like now that...



So, Mighty Thor #1 was pretty good overall, I feel like now that Jane’s identity is out to the readers, she will feel much more well rounded as a character, she definitely felt that way already this issue. But of course it was the final page reveal I am most interested in. I know a lot of people are probably kinda worried that all the character development done in Agent of Asgard has just been undone, but I think Laufey is in the right here, he knows his son. Loki can not be trusted. But that’s not a bad thing here. Pretty sure Loki is infiltrating Malekith’s little evil club, spying on them, maybe will attempt to take them down from the inside. I’m looking forward to seeing where this goes, especially his interactions with Laufey. Does Laufey know that it was Loki that finished him off way back when? I am also glad that Dauterman made the new staff to look much less like the movie scepter. I did not like that they looked so similar.

also, curious about where Thor (Odinson) is.



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